Interview: U.S. Rep Barbara Cubin
Wednesday, October 18, 2006
By Lucille Rice
"Basically you create a campaign plan and you execute it."
PJH: You have managed to keep the Wyoming congressional seat
for six terms and you are now running for a seventh term. What is
different about this race?
BC: Basically you create a campaign plan and you
execute it. The big difference in this campaign, from say Mr. Farris in
'98 or Mr. Maxfield in '96 is that my present opponent is much more
liberal. He is on record supporting tax increases, cutting defense
spending in a time of war and supporting a government run national
healthcare program. It creates a more stark philosophical contrast
between the candidates when you have a true conservative, such as me,
facing a true liberal, such as Mr. Trauner.
PJH: You say that it is time to develop a more simple,
common sense tax code. What would this new tax code entail? Would it
take those in the lower income brackets into consideration? Who does it
target and how?
BC: I have always been a strong advocate for
comprehensive tax code reform because our cur

rent tax code has been
tweaked and modified so many times it is neither logical nor
comprehensible. The Republican-led Congress has met with some success
over the past five years in lowering the tax burden for all working,
tax-paying Americans, as well as eliminating or reducing several of the
most egregious pieces of the tax code, such as the marriage and death
taxes. However, I am among a growing minority in Congress that believes
the best solution to our current tax code would be to tear it up and
create a tax system that works. The development of a truly fair and
simple tax system will take very deliberate work and oversight by both
bodies of Congress. However, I would work to ensure such a system would
include the application of a single, low tax rate to all Americans;
that it would require a supermajority of both chambers of Congress to
raise taxes; that it would give tax credits for families with children,
and tax breaks for education; and that the bias against savings and
investment that our current tax code presents would be eliminated. In
the past, I have cosponsored several legislative measures that would
accomplish these goals because I believe the time is past-due that
Congress stand up and take responsibility for how much of the American
family's paycheck is sent to Washington.
PJH: Tax cuts, as you have said, put money back into
people's pockets. Do you think that there is a trade-off here? Do tax
cuts take money from federally funded projects aimed at the greater
good of society such as education and health care?
BC: Ronald Reagan once said that the "government's view
of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves,
tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving,
subsidize it." I share President Reagan's cynicism of how much
influence the federal government asserts over the daily lives of the
American people and I believe that government is not the best suited to
determine how to spend the American taxpayer's hard-earned money. One
of the reasons I first ran for office is because I wanted to work for a
smaller more efficient government, while giving back to the American
people more control over their own lives and finances. That means
lowering the tax burden; reforming our entitlement programs to reduce
significant dollars wasted on fraud and abuse; and spending those taxes
the government does collect in a targeted and careful way. We have
proven time and time again that lower taxes equate to more money
circulating in local economies, which creates additional jobs and
opportunities. I believe we can meet the obligation we have as a
society to take care of those families and individuals that cannot take
care of themselves without limiting the opportunities of our working
families.
PJH: What are some alternatives to the fence for keeping illegal immigrants out if the barrier does not suffice?
BC:
Terrorists exploit open borders. Drug smugglers exploit open borders.
Open borders and lax immigration enforcement destroy the values of
citizenship and language that our nation is built on. I proudly
supported passage of the Secure Fence Act, providing for over 700 miles
of two-layered reinforced fencing along the southwest border, as well
as a "virtual fence," including cameras, ground sensors, and Unmanned
Aerial Vehicles along the larger southern border - because I believe
securing our borders is the first vital step in a larger effort to
tighten our nation's immigration policy. Beyond border fences, however,
we also need to immediately end to the "catch and release" policy at
the border; enact a workable employment verification system, and
enforce tougher penalties for immigration law violators. We passed
these and other measures last December in the House and I will keep
pushing for them until they are enacted into law.
PJH: You were quoted in the Wyoming Tribune Eagle to
have recently said, " Right now, we're in Iraq, and we have to get the
job done." Can you define what the job is and tell us whether or not
options like 'stay the course' and 'cut and run' are really viable at
this point? Is there a middle ground that we should aim for? If so,
what is it?
BC: Osama bin Ladin has called the war in Iraq the
center of World War III. He realizes the importance of the war on
terror, whose front lines are presently located in Iraq and
Afghanistan, and we need to realize it too. The intentions of the
terrorists we are fighting are gruesome, and we have all experienced
first hand the horrific consequences of their actions if we allow them
to go unchecked. We therefore need to fight this war with the same
resolve we have waged past world wars. I do not believe in establishing
an arbitrary date to withdraw from Iraq. Setting a politically
convenient date gives the enemy time to conserve their resources, then
attack with full force when we leave. While many in the media are quick
to highlight any new obstacle or stumble in our pursuit of peace and
freedom in Iraq, they fail to report the significant progress we
continue to see there. The state of Iraq made the move from a temporary
government to elected rulers under a permanent constitution in under a
year and a half; they ratified a constitution last fall; we have turned
over 40 out of 111 operation bases to the Iraqi Security Forces; 98% of
children under five have been immunized against polio; 47,000 teachers
have been trained; and communications, transportation, sanitation, and
electric transmission networks continue to be repaired and improved. We
have degraded the al Qaeda network, disrupted their financing, captured
or killed three-fourths of the organization's known leaders and
associates, and foiled additional terror plots on our own soil. We must
not allow those responsible for the 9/11 attacks to succeed.
PJH: What is your attendance record? There have been
allegations of politicians having 'blind party allegiance'; do you
always vote the party line? What is your response to Trauner's concern
with your support of Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert before the
results of the investigation on the Mike Foley incident are released?
BC: My roll call voting record for the 109th Congress
is 91%
I am a Republican and I believe in the principles of smaller
government, states rights, and the protection of personal freedoms that
form the base of our party's doctrine. The vast majority of the
constituents I represent are Republican. Therefore, it should be no
surprise that more often than not, I vote with my Republican
colleagues. Before casting any vote, however, I and my staff carefully
weigh the benefits or costs that bill will create for our state. If the
measure is not a step forward for Wyoming, I vote against it. I opposed
CAFTA, despite strong pressure from the administration and Republican
leadership in Congress, because of its detrimental effect on Wyoming's
ag industry. I voted against a popular second supplemental spending
measure for hurricane assistance because it didn't contain offsets or
recognize the disaster assistance needed by the West due to drought. I
oppose the President because I believe his immigration reform package
does not go far enough. I was sent to Washington to represent Wyoming
and that is what I constantly strive to do. The actions of Mark Foley
were a despicable and disgusting betrayal of his office, the American
people, and most concerning, the safety of our nation's children. I did
not know Mark Foley well, but I do know the Speaker well and he has
always proven to be an honorable and decent man. Before he was elected
to public office, he taught and coached in the Illinois school system
for sixteen years. I fully support a full and transparent investigation
into the Foley incident and will likewise support the appropriate
punishment of anyone involved.
PJH: In a Wednesday interview with Planet Jackson Hole,
your opponent Gary Trauner directed a question to you: " how does she
decide she wants to balance the budget given the fact that we've had
420 billion dollars in debt over the past six years and we're still
running, even though it's getting slightly better, we're still running
250 billion dollar debts.'" What is your response to Trauner's
question?
BC: Mr. Trauner is being hypocritical. He attacks the
debt and federal spending while supporting policies which will increase
federal spending dramatically. He supports a citizenship plan for the
12 million illegal aliens presently in this country. U.S. Senate Bill
2611 estimates such a plan would cost the taxpayers $4.8 billion a year
over the first ten years. He supports a government run national
healthcare system, which ten years ago was labeled Hillarycare and was
soundly defeated. Taxpayers would once again be left picking up the tab
for this new government program. With support for policies like these,
his accusations have no credibility. When Republicans took control of
Congress in 1995, we balanced the budget, ended the 30-year raid on
Social Security, and put our fiscal house in order. The result of this
work was the creation of record surpluses which allowed us to begin
paying down the public debt. Since then, costs of the continuing war on
terror and the recovery efforts after the monumental natural disasters
of 2005 have come with a steep price tag. I fully support the war in
Iraq and will continue to fight to provide our troops with whatever
resources they need to be safe and, with time, victorious. To be
fiscally responsible, however, means making tough choices. If spending
in one area increases, we must find ways to decrease federal spending
in others. Too often when efforts are made to reduce our federal
spending levels, the focus is on discretionary spending. The only way
we are ever going to truly eliminate the deficit is by reforming the
bureaucratic monster that is entitlement spending. Combined, Social
Security, Medicare and Medicaid spending will rise from 8.4 percent of
GDP today to 18.9 percent of GDP by 2050. While we have passed bills
this Congress to slow the growth of entitlement spending and eliminate
fraud and abuse to programs such as Medicare, Medicaid, it is not
enough. Wyoming's taxpayers know how to balance their own checkbooks.
They should be able to send their tax dollars to the federal government
each year with an expectation that this money will also be spent
wisely. Fortunately, we are also starting to reap the budgetary rewards
of the tax cuts we enacted over four years ago. Just this month, the
Administration released the final budget numbers for the fiscal year
ending September 30, 2006. The long and short of it is that the FY06
deficit is $248 billion, or $71 billion less than last year's deficit.
This number also means that President Bush's promise in February of
2004 to cut the deficit in half by 2009 has been met three years ahead
of schedule. Opponents of tax relief want people to believe that the
only way to cut the budget deficit is to raise taxes. This is just
simply not the case. We still have a lot of work to do, but these
numbers prove that the Republican philosophy of reduced taxes and
fiscal restraint will continue shrink the budget deficit.
PJH: On your website, you suggest that the health care
system will only work when doctors are relieved of the worry of
litigation and liability insurance costs. Is this one of the biggest
flaws of our country's health care system? What about those that can't
afford health insurance or health care? If reelected, what will you do
to get health coverage to the 17% of uninsured Wyomingites?
BC: I'm a senior member on the House Energy and
Commerce Committee's Subcommittee on Health. I have studied the health
care issue inside and out and I know the problems we have in Wyoming in
getting access to affordable care. The cost of health care is simply
too high - period. Waste and fraud in the Medicaid and Medicare
programs, medical liability costs that have spun out-of-control, and an
outdated "paper-based" medical records system are all drains on our
nation's health care system that need to be addressed. These issues are
extremely technical, however, and it is naive to think that a
simplistic government solution can be imposed and all will be well in
our health care field. We can, however, take several important steps to
bring those costs down and improve access to care. The cost of care is
not the only issue for us in Wyoming, where we have people who don't
even have ready access to the services they need. When rising costs
force a doctor to close his or her doors, entire communities are
affected. Our physicians are right now facing Medicare payment cuts
that could force them to stop taking Medicare. I've made it clear to
House Leadership that we must fix the broken reimbursement system
before the cuts go into effect in 2007. I also introduced legislation
this Congress to improve access to mental health care for our seniors
by doubling the number of Wyoming mental health providers that seniors
can see under the Medicare program. We simply need to attract more
medical providers to our state, so I have cosponsored a bipartisan bill
to use grants for nursing and medicine schools to encourage interest in
rural health. I will continue to fight to get Wyomingites the health
care they need as we face challenges unique from any other state.
PJH: In a recent Trauner press release, he implies that
your efforts to include Wyoming in federally funded energy research
projects have been insufficient. What is your response to that and do
you plan on moving forward with a new energy plan for Wyoming if
reelected? Along those lines, what are your views on the potential
conflict between wildlife habitat and mineral extraction in Wyoming?
BC: Once again Mr. Trauner is being a hypocrite. He
seemingly wrings his hands over federal spending and appropriations
earmarks, then attacks me for not getting more earmarks resulting in
more federal spending. He needs to pick an issue and stay on one side
of it. During my tenure in Washington, I and our Senators have worked
together to secure over twenty six million in funding for the
University of Wyoming alone - a significant portion of which has been
used on energy-related research. I also believe the more important
issue is what those policies I have authored and supported in Congress
have done for Wyoming's economy - an economy based largely what level
of energy development is occurring in the state. For over four years in
Congress, I fought tooth and nail to get a comprehensive energy bill
through Congress that would create Wyoming jobs, lower energy costs,
and most importantly, address the very real national security issue of
foreign energy dependence. I personally crafted several provisions of
the bill that will, over the long-term, increase and diversify the
production and national distribution of Wyoming's energy resources.
Several new clean-coal projects that will create hundreds of new jobs
are currently being pursued in Wyoming as a result of provisions in
that Energy bill. In addition, I have spearheaded through the House
this year passage of provisions to return the roughly half a billion
dollars Wyoming is owed by the federal government through the abandoned
mine lands program, as well getting signed into law a reduction in
royalty rates for our trona industry so they can focus on competing in
global markets. Regarding the potential conflicts between mineral
development and wildlife habitat, I would first point out that my
responsibility in Congress is to protect the public's abilities to
utilize and enjoy our federally managed lands for multiple uses. Those
uses include agriculture, hunting and fishing, recreation, and yes, in
certain cases - environmentally sound energy development. We have the
innovation and technological know-how to produce energy in a safer,
cleaner way than ever before. This means responsible development can
continue to occur on many of our public land holdings without
threatening the ecosystem or other uses of those lands. During my
tenure as the lone Wyoming Member of Congress, I have consistently
worked to protect this right of access by bringing increased
accountability to all of our federal land management agencies.
Protecting and preserving our public lands while dually promoting
Wyoming's economic drivers of energy development, tourism and
agriculture requires a careful balance. I have and will continue to
fight in Congress to maintain that balance.
PJH: What is the balance between aggressively seeking federal funding for Wyoming and curbing pork barrel spending?
BC: I fully support more transparency in the
appropriations process and will support any reform necessary to get rid
of wasteful spending and restore confidence in the system. I also think
it is also necessary to note that not all earmarks represent stealthy
or wasteful spending. Earmarks are not additional funding, but rather
serve to designate more specifically where already allocated money is
to be spent. Earmarks can often be not only beneficial but essential to
rural states like Wyoming, where funding priorities do not always align
with Members from more populated parts of the country. Earmarks also
allow Members to make sure worthwhile projects important to their
constituents do not get lost in the bureaucratic shuffle of the
Executive Branch. As such, I will continue to carefully analyze any
reform proposal in order to ensure an appropriate balance is struck.
- editor@planetjh.com
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