Group rallies for Healthcare Reform

I am not in favor of this or other wealth distribution projects. I go without services (including medical and dry cleaning) and goods (including medicine and Sirus radio)because I don't have the money for them. I would never dream of sending people with guns to take money from other people to pay for these goods or services that I want/need. I respectfully ask my neighbors to also respect the money I have earned.
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Dignan

Why not just give every Ameican a million dollars?Because the law of unintnded consquences whould insure the ruin of our economic system. Universal health care??? Same result. Try living in Cuba - the economic theories of Karl Marx and the American Left worked out real well there. These people know nothing of logic, science, or Adam Smith. Medicare is so extremely efficient and cost effective -why not have the govt just take the entire system over? Pardon me while I vomit. Good luck bankrupting the rest of our country, Democrats.
A Smith

Dianne: If you DO want to pay for everyone's med bills etc, why don't you move to Canada or Russia ?
TY

A Smith : what you don't think of is the social contract. If you don't want to pay for everyone's medical bills why don't you move out of America? Dianne Garrimann. WOW! Dianne: you just summarized the Democratic Party’s philosophy in a nutshell: if you don’t go along with our “social contract”, then you’re “un-American” and you should just LEAVE! There is great irony here. America was founded by liberals, but they were quite different from American “liberals” of today. They were liberals rebelling against a form of tyranny called Mercantilism. Mercantilism is a set of failed ideas, namely: The government knows better than the individual Economic wealth derives from resources, not mutual gains from trade amongst individuals Free trade is bad Power should be concentrated in a central government Sound familiar? It sure does – sounds very much like the platform of the Democratic Party. American “liberals” are simply Mercantilists in donkey’s clothing. They are the arch nemeses of the original liberals, known to us as the founding fathers. To reduce confusion, original liberals now call themselves “classical liberals”; in most parts of the world this is the definition the word ” liberal” still evokes. The Democrats are demanding that power of health care decisions be usurped by the federal government – taken from individuals and concentrated in a centrally-planned bureaucracy so as to “cover everyone”. This so called “logic” is DOOMED to failure, and is precisely the reason the Soviet Union failed: many individuals making many separate decisions is far more efficient than a central bureaucracy deciding what is best for the masses. If centrally-planned, nationalized systems were more productive and efficient, then Zimbabwe, Venezuela, and Cuba would have the highest GDP on the planet. Unfortunately, the political left is not real good at deriving logical conclusions from large sets of data.
Thomas Paine

Donh: Either you are still in high school, or you're another Dennis Kucinich style far left nut with a tinfoil hat. You utterly and completely fail to understand history. There is not ONE SINGLE EXAMPLE of ANY government running an industry efficiently in the history of this planet – if you know of one, please tell us about it. Mr. Chavez is having such great success taking over industry in Venezuela, is he not? What has the GDP growth been in Cuba since 1959? Prior to 1959? Any ideas? Many industries were nationalized in the UK in the decades following WWII. The results of nationalization were catastrophic, and led directly to the election of Maggie Thatcher. The resulting GDP growth from privatization in subsequent years is well known. How do you think the economic conditions in East Germany looked the day after the Berlin Wall fell? The standard of living in West Germany was STUNNINGLY higher than it’s Eastern brother after four and a half decades of a wall dividing the country. The difference? West Germany allowed prices to fluctuate and allowed private firms do business; some made profits, others failed. The government of DDR took over industries, just as you and your ignorant ilk propose to do to our health care system. The DDR set prices of goods and services, just as you propose to do in America. The resulting shortages and poverty creation in East Germany are legendary. Like so many arrogant, condescending left-wing nuts, you simply dismiss overwhelming evidence of Pareto or near-Pareto optimal resource allocation in market economies as simply benefitting “fat cats” and leading to “collusion”. Just like Karl Marx, you point to Capitalism’s failings as an excuse for government to take of the entire economy. In Capitalism, some are poor. In Socialism, EVERYONE is poor. Zimbabwe, Cuba, and Venezuela are proving this today. The many many countries that were the former Soviet Union proved that in the past century. You seem to think that socialism is a great idea that simply got some bad press. Why don’t YOU “cowboy up” and move to a socialist economy? Pretty unlikely. Instead, you simply suck at the udder of capitalism while screaming for the government to intervene to control prices and industries. Our economy is just like the ecosystem in Yellowstone. If the government intervenes to feed some failing animals, they cause the eventual failure of the entire ecosystem. Marx was wrong. Adam Smith was right. Get used to it. Let me know how those midterm elections work out for all you tinfoil hat nuts.
Thomas Paine